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NMRA Kevin
05-16-2006, 03:41 PM
Discuss topics about this event here.

90GT398
05-16-2006, 05:05 PM
Let's discuss the lack of any N/A classes this year it might as well be the Ford version of Orlando World Street Nationals or Bradenton Street Car Nats.

I think next year will be the first year I do not order the WFC video. No N/A no moN/A

Sixty feet
05-16-2006, 05:45 PM
I agree Carl. I think there should atleast be a hot street class.I'm sure it will be a great show anyway ,but I do enjoy the N/A stuff too.(as long as it's fast)..You coming to St. Louis Carl?

90GT398
05-16-2006, 05:49 PM
I wish but I have Command Duty this weekend at the base.

Pat @ S.A.M.
05-17-2006, 04:44 AM
It is very disappointing to us. I hope WFC sees the light and has a N/A class next year.

No Cents Racing
05-17-2006, 05:29 AM
A very sad move on the part of WFC. I have followed them to race at every location they have choosen since #1 in BG. This year we will not be attending. Im sure the effects will not matter but I normally have 15-20 people that pay the entry fee to come with us. :mad:

wheelie
05-17-2006, 09:01 AM
I agree there should be a N/A heads up class. A friend of mine has a H/S legal car and he is going to race open comp.

However, how many cars showed in Hot Street last year? I think there was only 4 cars?? They will not continue to have a class when they have so little cars......but by the same token, not many racers showed because the purse was low....and there was no contingency! Its like a catch-22

powerjames
05-17-2006, 10:23 AM
NMRA TV to broadcast all weekend from World Ford Challenege 9 at Gateway Raceway in St. Louis, MO

NMRA TV will be broadcasting digital video all weekend from the Mobil One World Ford Challenge 9 event held at Gateway Raceway in St. Louis, MO this weekend. As over 250,000 video streams from NMRA FL and NMRA GA can attest, Ford enthusiasts of all types crave up to the minute event coverage, videos, interviews, and tech reviews.

The World Ford Challenge is one of the largest Ford events of the year, and NMRA TV will be there from Friday morning for Test and Tune through Sunday’s Final Rounds. Log on to www.nmraracing.com all weekend for the latest videos and event results.

Here is the schedule of coverage for WFC9:

Friday / WFC 9:
-Introduction, Racer Interviews
-Tech & Product Reviews
-Qualifying Round 1: Pro Mod 5.0, Pro Outlaw, Street Outlaw, Outlaw Drag Radial

Saturday / WFC 9:
-Introduction, Racer Interviews
-Round 2 Qualifying: All Classes, Pro Mod 5.0, Pro Outlaw, Street Outlaw, Outlaw Drag Radial, Open Comp, Modular Street, Cobra Challenge, Real Street, Pro Lightning, Street Lightning, Ford Diesel Challenge
-Staging Lane Interviews

Sunday / WFC 9
-Introduction, Racer Interviews
-Round 1 Eliminations: All Classes
-Round 2-4: Pro Mod 5.0, Pro Outlaw, Street Outlaw, Outlaw Drag Radial
-Final Round: All Classes

To view the video, check out the NMRA home page at www.nmraracing.com

86sspcoupe
05-17-2006, 02:18 PM
Will there be a retail tire guy at the race?How can I reach him,Thanks

wheelie
05-17-2006, 07:37 PM
Will there be a retail tire guy at the race?How can I reach him,Thanks

What do you need done? you can email me at dan@hyperformanceracing.com

SANDMAN
05-18-2006, 03:34 AM
It seems every thing must have "Outlaw" in the name now a days or they want to make all classes some sort of "Outlaw".

I'm like you and interested in N/A.




Let's discuss the lack of any N/A classes this year it might as well be the Ford version of Orlando World Street Nationals or Bradenton Street Car Nats.

I think next year will be the first year I do not order the WFC video. No N/A no moN/A

CAPTAIN
05-18-2006, 07:54 AM
How about this, out of THREE Truck race classes, my "race" truck doesn't fit into any, but my "tow" truck does. Go figure.

I didn't realize there wasn't a HS class this year, so we're in the same boat, but not really.

The WFC is a place to find out who the best of the NMRA & FFW are, a Ford Super Bowl if you will.
Why is it then, that all of the other racers can race their respective classes at WFC, but the guys who do not have a Lightning VIN number, can't run truck?
Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me, that the guys who run Rangers, F150's and older F100's in the NMRA & FFW all season long, have to sit at home just because it's a so called "Lightning" only event.
That's total BS, because the only thing left on most of those trucks that is "Lightning" is their VIN tag and a sticker.
Wouldn't the fans want to see other trucks, other then the same black, red, and silver trucks?
I've voiced my opinion about this on some of the Lightning boards and they (the lightning owners) are deadset against it, for no apparent reason.
I'm certainly not towing over 1000 miles to run in the brackets, but I would be there if I could run in the truck class, just like I do all season long in the NMRA.

Anyone have any input on this?

radialcoupe
05-18-2006, 09:33 AM
will there be round by round results posted? or just the video? thanks

chris

MeJay Racing
05-18-2006, 10:04 AM
It seems every thing must have "Outlaw" in the name now a days or they want to make all classes some sort of "Outlaw".

I'm like you and interested in N/A.

Maybe they should call it Outlaw N/A LOL I miss it too. Especially after there was talk of maybe combining Hot Street and Renegade.

Amy Sherwin
05-18-2006, 04:49 PM
Wanted to wish everyone going GOOD LUCK & have a SAFE TRIP!!! I have to work the weekend & the car is not finished anyway, OH WAIT thats right there is no P/S class so I guess it all works out:eek:

I'll keep up on whats going on through out the weekend.

Vinman
05-18-2006, 08:06 PM
How about this, out of THREE Truck race classes, my "race" truck doesn't fit into any, but my "tow" truck does. Go figure.

I didn't realize there wasn't a HS class this year, so we're in the same boat, but not really.

The WFC is a place to find out who the best of the NMRA & FFW are, a Ford Super Bowl if you will.
Why is it then, that all of the other racers can race their respective classes at WFC, but the guys who do not have a Lightning VIN number, can't run truck?
Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me, that the guys who run Rangers, F150's and older F100's in the NMRA & FFW all season long, have to sit at home just because it's a so called "Lightning" only event.
That's total BS, because the only thing left on most of those trucks that is "Lightning" is their VIN tag and a sticker.
Wouldn't the fans want to see other trucks, other then the same black, red, and silver trucks?
I've voiced my opinion about this on some of the Lightning boards and they (the lightning owners) are deadset against it, for no apparent reason.
I'm certainly not towing over 1000 miles to run in the brackets, but I would be there if I could run in the truck class, just like I do all season long in the NMRA.

Anyone have any input on this?

Never had a problem racing rangers before and definately would not have a problem racing one now.

At least everybody can't blame JDM for this. He doesn't sponser the classes.

Hey "Champ" ..Just throw a diesel in the purple beast and go kick ass next year.LOL

VINNIE

Rob_02Lightning
05-19-2006, 04:23 AM
Being an older Hot Rodder fairly new at running these events this is my take.
ALOT of the Classes and rules dont make sence, both for FFW and NMRA.

At FFW Eng Town last year (May 21/22/05) this Black Lightning had to get there at day break Sat, sit on a tech line for over an hour, then registration line for over 2 hours, only then to sit on his ass until 5 PM because "my class" cant even make a pass (never mind race) to then because I dont have 2 scratches on my Hoosiers. THAT MAKES A HELL OF A LOT OF SENCE since any other truck at any power level that happens to have 2 scratches in his slicks can be making passes all morning and afternoon long, (no matter how loud the vehicle is) :rolleyes:
Then I qualify 10th only to get rained out Sunday and told I have to travel 1/2 way across the country if I want to finish the event.
Uh no thanks.....

Then I battle the hottest most brutal day I will experience in my lifetime at NMRA Aug 2005 at ATCO. "Us Lightning's" are treated like Dog Schitt and not even allowed to park with the rest of YOU (I tried and was told to move numerous times) so we're pushed to the furthest possible spot away from the 1320 (in the back corner where all the trailers have to park) so now there is no possible way for us to get to the line without having a heat soaked motor, like the triple digit temps werent bad enough for our intercoolers and S/C.
Unfortunately the heat took it's toll on my truck and I couldnt finish the event, but the point is "we" were treated like outcasters and we contribute as much as any of you, so whats the big deal that we have "1" event a year for us only, I only wish it was closer so I could run it.

You schitt and pi$$ on us at every event because you dont want us there, but we have as much right as any of you to be there, so once a year there's an event you cant race at, whats the big deal ???

HeadsupGT
05-19-2006, 06:51 AM
sounds like lightning owners are like Corvette owners.

I guess they have "special" cars/trucks

WFC sucks now. The best was the first one ever since then its gone downhill. They got too Big. I didnt attend the 2nd one in RT 66 but i dii go to 1, 3 and 4. Car count just went down down down. More purse will bring more cars and more open classes will help also. But the money would be the most beneficial to Car counts

Greg

powerjames
05-19-2006, 08:53 AM
We got a great welcome to World Ford Challenge 9 today -- great weather so far and lots of cars in the pits.

NMRA TV is here as well as Race Pages Magazine, and we'll be reporting all weekend on WFC9. This morning test and tune is on the schedule and we'll get into the first round of qualifying shortly earlier this afternoon.

We just watched Don Shobe's beautiful new 2006 Mustang NMRA Super Street Outlaw car click off a 7.65 on it's first pass of the weekend, and he will be competing in the WFC9 Street Outlaw class. John Gullet is also here with his wild small block turbo car with a brand new paint job, but the car got loose at 300', and he lifted.

We'll keep you in the loop all day today with NMRA TV and on the message board!

powerjames
05-19-2006, 09:02 AM
Bert Kelkboom is on the property from the Island of Aruba, he's making a test and tune hit in the left lane, which so far has been the better lane of the two. He was slightly loose, but ripped a 1.03 60' foot. He ran a 6.76 at 181.22 lifting.

Lots of IHRA Pro Stock cars are running in Pro Mod 5.0. Everyone is here from IHRA to win the $35 big ones.

Bob Birch is in the right lane with his Pro Mod 5.0, Purvis, also a Pro 5.0 car, is in the left lane. Both John Kaase big block engines. Purvis has to shut down, but Birch runs a good solid 6.73 at 210.28 mph.

Rumor in the pits is that the favorite in the Outlaw Drag Radial class is none other than David Wolfe, the fastest man in the World on Drag Radials. However, in his debut for 2006, don't discount Dwayne Big Daddy Gutridge, who is here at Gateway looking to pick up his first win of the year.

Dan Millen, the desert eagle, is getting ready to rumble. We're looking for a 6-second run, and this might be the racetrack to do it at. Dan has run as quick as 7.00 at over 200 mph with his 5-speed Liberty equipped machine, but he didn't make a good run, as he spun the tires hard off the line.

1320stang
05-19-2006, 09:23 AM
Mike Smith is supposed to have his MDRC car out, I don't know if it's still blue, I'm assuming he's running SSO.

KST
05-19-2006, 09:47 AM
Sorry but John has his Mustang with a sb in it, not the Escort with the bb. Paul and all the crew from his shop busted their butts on the new paint job just for the WFC.

powerjames
05-19-2006, 11:15 AM
We've got the Friday Video Introduction up on NMRA TV -- we're shooting interviews in the pits and getting ready to shoot Round 1 Qualifying.

Watch NMRA TV World Ford Challenge 9 Introduction (http://www.nmraracing.com/nmratv/2006/worldford/mediaTv.php)

powerjames
05-19-2006, 12:52 PM
Car count is actually very good here. I think it's safe to say that WFC is up quite a bit in 2006.

powerjames
05-19-2006, 01:41 PM
We're here in Round 1 Qualifying, and we started with the big dogs, Pro Mod 5.0.

Pro Mod 5.0 Qualifying Round 1

In the naturally aspirated 2000 GT, Mike Hauf ripped a best-ever 6.53 at over 212 mph, and Don Walsh Jr. ran a 6.56 at 212.73. Both cars went straight down the track without a wiggle. It's warm out but the track is holding up.

Bert Kelkboom and Randy Eakins. Eakins car makes a move to the left and he drives through it and goes a 6.88, while Kelbooks makes a soft pass, only running a 7.04.

Frank Gugiliotta's the #1 qualifier with a 6.44 at a stunning 218 mph. The pass was string straight, and the car is an IHRA Pro Stocker.

We've got Tim Dobbins, a Orange IHRA Pro Stock Escort, running against Robert Patrick's brand new 2006 IHRA Pro Stock Mustang. Both cars pretty straight. Dobbins goes #2 with a 6.47 and a strong 6.51 from Patrick puts him #3.

John Gullet is here with a new paint job, and he is taking on Larry Larsen, who is driving David Schorr's N/A EFI big block. Both cars stumble off the line. Larsen gets off the gas, and Gullet runs 7.37

IHRA Pro Stock Champion Tony Gillig makes his way to the line with car owner Timmy Huston. Currently Gillig is tied for #1 in points in IHRA. He taking on another IHRA car, John Nobile, who has run consistent 6.40's in IHRA competition. Nobile's team is moving him around on the starting line. Nobile leaves early, and runs 6.52 at 215.07 to Gillig's 6.51 at 215.

Hometown favorite in Pro Mod 5.0, is Dan Saitz from St. Louis, with a 424ci small-block Ford with twin turbos. He is going to make a single as the last car in Pro 5.0 Round 1 Qualifying. Car moves left off the line, fighting the car, and runs 6.67 at 218.37 to qualify in the #10 qualified spot.

There are 12 Pro 5.0 cars in the 6-second range, and 16 cars total.

powerjames
05-19-2006, 01:53 PM
Pro Outlaw - Qualifying Round 1

Pro Outlaw is the 33x10.5W class.

Chip Havemann is taking on Tim Essick. Havemann has a twin turbocharged 400+ ci Windsor, and Essick has the same. Havemann's new car is looking for the 200+ mph zone. Essick leaves early, and moves toward the wall, running 7.51 to Havemann's 7.31 at 199.42 mph.

Jim Monson, out of Michigan, takes on Dwayne James from New Mexico, with a 400ci Twin Turbo Car. James car is the former Billy Glidden car. James gets loose, and smokes a little, but runs 7.45 at 191.40 to Monson's 7.98 at 170.11.

Gary Rohe has switched to a twin turbo combination, taking on Brian Keller. Keller's got a 427ci small-block in a Fairmont. Gary Rohe kicks the door open in a dramatic fashion, as his car has problems. 7.31 is the #1 qualifier, but we are down for a minute as there is some cleanup on the track. The fairmoney leaves, but there are some mechanical problems and he lifts to a 12.80.

Conrad Scary with a 448ci small block with turbos is in the right lane with a really nice Blue 2004 Cobra, and in the left lane is Brian Carpenter with another big inch Turbo ride. Carpenter goes 7.11 after driving through a big wheelie and it blacktracks to half track, and Scary smokes the tires and runs a mid 15-second pass.

Tim Lynch is having some problems, and Steve Petty is working inside the car trying to fix the problem. He's taking on Dan "The Desert Eagle" Millen. The main difference between these rides is that Lynch runs a twin turbo automatic transmission and Millen runs a single turbo stickshift combo. Lynch is the baddest man on 10.5's -- they've gone 6.79 on W tires in the past. Lynch moves hard to the left against the wall and lifts, Millen goes a 7.33 at 195.53 mph.

Gary Rohe is back with his car fixed. He has a single. Rohe has a straight pass, 5.02 in the 1/8, and runs a 7.72 in the 1/4 on a same pass, to qualify in the #6 positon.

powerjames
05-19-2006, 02:08 PM
Street Outlaw - Qualifying Round 1

Street Outlaw is the 28 x 10.5 class.

Don Burton is in the left lane, is taking on Dan Wernhausen. Burton is running a nitrous big block, and the car leaves perfect. Burton rips 7.53 at 187.80 to a 8.12 at 175 by Wenhausen, who hugs the center line down the entire track.

Don Shobe has his new 2006 Super Street Outlaw Mustang taking on John Urist's 400ci Procharger machine. Shobe blew the tires, and Urist is really fishtailing, and runs 7.59 at 194 mph, to Shobe's 8.42.

Jarret Halfacre is lining up against Christian Helm's Red LX. Halfacre leaves strong, runs a 1.28 in the 60', and runs 7.54 at 188 mph, while Helms lifts. Halfacre is in the #2 spot now, right after Don Burton.

Travis Franklin lines up against Mike Smith, Franklin is in the trouble moving hard to the centerline and lifts. Smith goes 8.17 at 174 mph.

Sam Vincent goes 7.57 at 182 mph on a very clean pass. Vincent has some problems with his parachute which opens late, but he's okay. Mike Trimandilis is next up, looking to go #1. He goes 1.26 short time, 4.99 in the 1/8, and runs 7.59 at 187, and he goes to the #5 qualified position.

powerjames
05-19-2006, 02:16 PM
Outlaw Drag Radial

This class allows any type of Drag Radial.

Jason Arden taking on Tim Huspin, on Drag Radials. Huspin moves around. An unbelievable 7.93 for Arden at 188.87 to Huspin's 8.25 at 184 mph.

Dwayne Big Daddy Gutridge inches into the beams with Job Spetter Jr. taking on Aaron Van Heel from Minnestosa. Big Daddy goes 8.03 at a jaw-dropping 189 mph to a 9.44 at 151.99 mph.

Scott Masseto is on a single, and goes 9.79 at 141.40 mph on a shut down run.

Jim Mill's from Horse Shoe Lake, AR., will qualify with a single. He smokes the tires off the line, and runs a 1.47 short time, and runs a very impressive 8.08 at 181.80 mph. This will put him in the #3 spot.

Cale Hammerman is on a single, with a sweet 2004 Cobra. Car drifts right, he pedals it at about 200 feet, and runs 8.44 at 180.40.

David Wolfe comes to the line with the World's Fastest Drag Radial ride, taking on Mike Kay. Wolfe very hard, and the power comes on so strong from half track. Starting with a 1.31 short time, Wolfe runs 7.47 at 196.82 mph with stock suspension, to Kay's 8.36 at 178.24.

Wade Hopkins runs 8.15 at 173.87 to put him in the #5 position.

Don Spar from Indiana taking on Corey Berry, with Berry going 8.13 at 177.79 to 8.49 at Spar's 162 mph pass. Berry will take over the # qualified position.

Tim Harington runs a 9.82 at 167, and Glenn Burkler runs 8.23 at 182 mph.

VTEngines
05-19-2006, 03:00 PM
THANK YOU for the round coverage James ! That was great!!! Can't wait for more NMRA TV!

MichaelFreedman
05-19-2006, 03:07 PM
David Wolfe is my hero!!!!!! Unbelievable! Way to go.

Mike

jp'sperformance
05-19-2006, 03:21 PM
where is manny buginga

nos84gt
05-19-2006, 03:30 PM
I believe Manny is at a NOPI race in MD.......That is what I heard....

jp'sperformance
05-19-2006, 03:35 PM
more money at world ford challenge,and i would think the defending champ would have come back to defend his title.:confused:

jericoholic
05-19-2006, 03:53 PM
Wolfe very hard, and the power comes on so strong from half track. Starting with a 1.31 short time, Wolfe runs 7.47 at 196.82 mph with stock suspension
Wow. Holy sh!t doesn't quite seem to cover it.


Havemann's 7.31 at 199.42 mph
Atta Boy, Chip!!!!! MPH is looking good! Lean that thing out a little down low and get the E.T. !!!!!

NMRAPaul
05-19-2006, 04:35 PM
Here's a couple of bits from the pits to go with James' round-by-round notes...

http://www.promediapub.com/vbulletinimg/nmra/wfc/urist.jpg
You might recall that at NMRA Silver Dollar, John "Fireball" Urist posted what some called "unbelievable" trap speeds in the mid-190's. Well, I guess you can't blame it on the timing system in Georgia, since Urist trapped 194 and change today. That hot dog wrapper really gets around, eh?

http://www.promediapub.com/vbulletinimg/nmra/wfc/wolfe.jpg
David Wolfe reinforced his claim to the title, "Fastest Man Drag Radials" with a 7.47 in the first round today. One problem, though - nether the car nor David are certified to run quicker than 7.50, and Wolfe tells us that the car was "turned way, way down." He'll have to bracket race it tomorrow to keep it slower than 7.49 while staying ahead of the guy in the other lane. Shouldn't be a problem; Right now, Wolfe has the rest of the field covered by almost a half-second and eight miles an hour.

Underdog!
05-19-2006, 04:40 PM
Does anyone remember when the only cars running what David Wolfe did were big tubbed 4link Bigblock cars. My my, how things have changed over the years. :eek:

Smav347
05-19-2006, 04:52 PM
Ha ha, tell me about it. I went to my local track last night and saw a ton of "tubbed" 10-second cars with no mufflers. Yay southern Cali. :rolleyes:

KJ Jones
05-19-2006, 05:24 PM
Ha ha, tell me about it. I went to my local track last night and saw a ton of "tubbed" 10-second cars with no mufflers. Yay southern Cali. :rolleyes:

If I said, "I could smell you out there," that would be being mean, right?! Hahahahaha! Just kiddin', Jakester. I was on the property out at I'dale yesterday. I got there...and left there...pretty early though. Hung out from about 4pm until maybe 7:30pm. I was on the road for home well before the sun went down. You'll have to give me a call when you guys are going out there again and we'll connect on a Thursday night.

I went to check out a little Windsor-powered, 'stick Mustang coupe that was making a debut. It had one of my old sets of headers on it! I had to bail after a while. That place just annoys the crap out of me. It's amazing the kinds of buckets that some of the fans out there think are "cool."LOL

Smav347
05-19-2006, 07:39 PM
Yeah, there was a pretty fast blue fox body I saw. 5.90s lifting I think.

KJ Jones
05-19-2006, 09:23 PM
Yeah, there was a pretty fast blue fox body I saw. 5.90s lifting I think.

5.90s = quick, not "fast," Jake. You and your brother Jason have the same problem! You guys are editors...gotta watch stuff like that!LOL

That blue hatch car is pretty quick (I didn't see the speed, but it's probably "fast" as well, hahahahaha). I saw it run a couple of times. Definitely a quick car...I believe it has a Vortech YS-Trim w/'cooler.

Anyway, hit me up the next Thursday you cats head that way.

Smav347
05-19-2006, 10:02 PM
Ha ha ha.

SwillRacer
05-20-2006, 10:57 AM
What ever happened to combining the Renegade and Hot Street classes? You could have put a little weight on the REN cars and/or lighten up the HS cars and it would have been a neat little class I think....

Oh well...

kdesigns
05-20-2006, 11:54 AM
James and gang-
thanks for the coverage and the minute by minute reports - Good Job!!!

One question from reading all of these notes - Is David Wolfe out of ODR now? Bummer - I was looking forward to hearing about a Wolfe/big Daddy match up. Or did he jusy get a slap on the wrist and told to keep it below 7.50?

powerjames
05-20-2006, 12:07 PM
James and gang-
thanks for the coverage and the minute by minute reports - Good Job!!!

One question from reading all of these notes - Is David Wolfe out of ODR now? Bummer - I was looking forward to hearing about a Wolfe/big Daddy match up. Or did he jusy get a slap on the wrist and told to keep it below 7.50?

David Wolfe is still in the show, we've heard he's just been told not to run faster than 7.50. He made a second round pass and lifted in Qualifying.

James

mack e nm
05-20-2006, 07:57 PM
What happened in Wild Street. :confused:
How many started the 30 mile drive? :)
Finished?
Qualifing Numbers? :confused: